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Cute how you took one sentence out of my comment and say it shows I'm ignoring the exact point I made.

Here is what you said:

I also find it hard to believe the Earth as a system is so easily unbalanced. Life has been here for billions of years. If the earths climate were to go haywire at the slightest disturbance I doubt life would have gotten as far as it has.

This seems to me a statement that can stand up on its own pretty well and all I was interested in addressing. I don't know how much more nuance I could read into this by adding more context.

None of the models I've seen model the earth accurately because they are just that, models. Most are only useful in comparison to themselves.

This is true, but the earth's weather is too chaotic to be accurately modeled with our available measuring and computational power. If many models agree in terms of their long term trends, that is probably the best information we can get out of such models.

CH4 is a far more effective greenhouse gas.

Indeed, and its concentration is measured in parts per billion, not parts per million. My interpretation of what you said is something along the lines of, humans are small and the atmosphere is big and it's not likely that something so small can influence something so big, which is not true. Maybe you also don't believe this and misstated it.

Climatology is also facing a "chicken little" image problem. If there really is a crisis they need to get their shit nailed down airtight before presenting radical solutions that will cause extreme harm to the current civilization.

A top down solution would probably be radical and badly implemented, but if people believed and paid attention to conservation and waste reduction, and the birth rate of all nations continues to decrease as their wealth increases, I feel like we could solve or at least significantly delay the worst effects for a long time. I see so many people driving around the city who accelerate to 40 - 50 mph only to stop at a red light or--even worse--stop sign at the end of the block. If Americans reduced their meat consumption by, say, 15%, that too would make a huge difference in greenhouse gas emissions, and we could probably cut out 15% in wasted food alone without anyone even having to eat less.

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