AN IDIOT'S GUIDE TO PANDEMIC LEGION

Interesting post, but PL really isn't what you think it is.

Most members do not FC or step up to do anything mildly useful. If a random guy pings for capitals or supers, pretty low chance he's getting anyone unless he can guarantee a super kill or something, if they ping for subcaps of some kind for something that isn't capital kills or a super, they'll get maybe 5 people.

As for being elite, there are a ton of people in PL who are dog shit at this game. There are also a lot of people who just straight up do not follow instructions. We probably lose 15-20% of our alpha every TFI fleet because people can't follow the simple idea of waiting until they're told to shoot. We lose tons of people who don't broadcast or do when they are in structure.

Case in point: BOPE was recruiting people with basically no PVP experience directly from our rental alliance. It's been awhile, but for a fair bit all you needed to join HABIT was a titan. WAFFLES puts out a number of people primarily into SNIGG and seem to have moved from a competency based "graduation" to a "you've been here awhile" methodology. Previously it was only people who FCd or did stuff that would graduate. In addition to this, a lot of people are in PL because they are friends of someone and trusted, not because of any specific PVP prowess. Some people are invited to corps specifically to piss other people in the alliance off for fun. Whether these recruitment methods are really bad, who am I to say, but it's not all poaching enemy FCs and recruiting the best PVPers in the land.

As for being no-life neckbeards, that's probably a fair outsider assessment and applies to some, but the reality of the matter is that most EVE players play more than PL members. Most people in PL don't play EVE like people in other organizations do, very few people log in outside of fleets. Generally speaking people do not PVE or go find some sort of content on their own, if you see 60 people in our staging system that's because most of them left their client open after a fleet.

I think a reasonable way to look at it is that a lot of people started EVE awhile ago, nerded out and ground out a super or titan or both when they had the time to do so, and now they're in their end game where they only log in to PVP. The other interesting thing is that PL tends to seriously struggle with activity. People have to actually set time aside to do EVE things, and if there isn't really an enemy people want to crush, people simply won't do this outside of getting enough kills to not get purged. When the victories or defeats don't matter, most people don't care. On the PL end this is what happens in Catch where we tend to struggle to get the critical mass needed for fleets because people don't feel overly motivated to play EVE instead of doing something else.

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