I will anwser you comrade. See, they fought against capitalists and solved the poverty issue in its majority. I come from a former socialist country, and i know what i am talking about from first hand. I believe this anwsers you. I defend state socialism cause i know it will help the poor, and i know also first handed that material needs are more importand thatn your philoshophical ones. I believe that firsty we must solve the poverty issue and then head for the state issue. If you want more you can go bellow and read my discussion with RavenWolf97 bellow, it anwsers some of your questions. If you want my to ask anything more, ask, i would be delighted to anwser.