Any stim where the recreational effects last anywhere close to as long as the negatives?

that's very common, and really the only way to get rid of it is by taking some sort of sedative/hypnotic when you want to go to sleep, what kind works varies wildly among each person - one person might find that just taking a couple Benadryl does the trick, but i have to take 200mg of Seroquel and 2mg or more of Xanax combined if i want to fall asleep at all (even when the speed wore off twelve hours beforehand).

have you ever tried melatonin or valerian root? those are two very gentle OTC examples that work for a lot of stimulant users, especially combined with a dose of an OTC antihistamine hypnotic (specifically small doses of diphenhydramine aka Benadryl/Sominex). it's not uncommon for people to need a prescription-strength sedative to combat the post-amphetamine insomnia tho, usually they find that a benzo works if nothing else does. i personally think Ativan is probably the best post-speed benzo but it might be too long acting for a narcoleptic to take - Xanax is by far the most popular benzo in the US right now, via prescription and especially on the street, and where i live it's as easy to find a Xanax dealer as it is to find a Percocet/Vicodin dealer, if not easier. three benzos that would definitely be too long -acting for a narcolepsy sufferer to take are Klonopin, Valium, and Dalmane. the benzo with the shortest acting duration is definitely Halcion, and it'd be really great because it's specifically a hypnotic benzo, but it seems near impossible to find over here on the street and also near impossible to find anyone who is prescribed it/will prescribe it, so it's pretty much a lost cause. if you're looking for a benzo the two you're probably going to find are Xanax and Ativan.

only in extreme cases will a speed user find that they need a sedative antipsychotic like Seroquel or Risperdal because nothing else will work and even benzos won't. typically, in my experience, those cases are limited to heavier amphetamine users, especially IV methamphetamine addicts, and my use being so heavy is just one of the countless reasons why i need both an antipsychotic and a benzo and not even just one of them alone.

TL;DR - this is common and you're gonna need pills to fix it. try melatonin, valerian root, 25-50mg of diphenhydramine first if you haven't already. the three of those combined is the answer for the typical stimulant user. it's far less common to need something as strong as a benzo, most speed users who jump straight to benzos are doing it because benzos are fun

/r/Stims Thread