Arda Turan on the criticism for his performances at the European Championship: "I've nothing to prove. I've worn this shirt more than 90 times and the times I've played badly can be counted on the fingers of one hand."

No bro in terms of market value we're legit top 10 in Europe, according to Transfermarkt. The team just doesn't click together. Omer Toprak, Arda Turan, Volkan Demirel, Oguzhan Ozyakup, Caner Erkin, Hakan Calhanoglu and Gokhan Tore are all (potentially) top class players.

No bro, those transfermarkt values are arbitrary, the value of players in Turkey are mostly inflated. In terms of those arbitrary transfermarkt values, Turkey can be a top 10, or if you inflate them more it can even be a top 3 league but in reality no one's going to pay those values to you, and no one will pay them the kind of salary they make in Turkey (Ozan makes about as much salary as Yannick Carrasco without the accomplishment, but he chose more money in Turkey instead of Spain, so he won't develop as much as he would've if he went to Spain last year).

In true rankings, Turkish league ranks #11. This is the true ranking, not based on arbitrary and self-inflated values but on actual performances against other European leagues in European cups, which is the only true way of measuring league level.

Omer Toprak and Hakan Calhanoglu are products of Germany, not Turkey, and they play in Bundesliga and for Bayer Leverkusen, so they're more valuable. Other players you've listed aren't as valuable as claimed except for Gökhan Töre, he's the only one who can make or over 10 million in Turkey, and he's from Germany too. We all saw how Oğuzhan melted away next to Modric and Busquets/Iniesta, okay? Volkan Demirel? Lol.

So far, Arda is the only player to move out of Turkey and established a high market value by establishing himself in Spain in the last 10 years. He's self-made. And people in Turkey hate him for it, even Galatasaray fans, because people in Turkey are jealous of successful Turks.

You can't compare Turkish selection to teams like Romania, Albania, Slowakia etc. But for some reason they're playing way better than us.

Romania are already eliminated from the tournament, they're the first team to go home. And Turkey played stronger opponents than Albania and Slowakia, and their players aren't "primadonnas", they're actually trying to prove themselves and increase their value and earnings, unlike players in Turkey whose values and salaries are already inflated by Turkish clubs and media. Clubs in Turkey should stop paying those players over a million, so that they move to one of the European clubs if an offer comes to make more money, and there they have to work hard to get that money, unlike in Turkey.

Incompetent managing

While I don't care about Terim, he's the most successful coach ever in Turkey's history. He's the only guy to win one of the major European cups.

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