So all I'm saying is I did a reasonable amount of research and should have expected them to grade the card as they said they would. Perhaps it is a bit of a niche market and for you it is obvious, but there is no easy way to the knowledge you purport. I sent other cheaper cards with these but based on other threads on reddit I was not expecting to be scammed on higher priced cards at all. To me it seems like you like the idea of people who just need to get rid of a few cards to get by being ripped off and loving on the scammers, and that bothers me. But I can understand being annoyed by fools and idiots, however I don't think this is such a situation. People should not expect to be ripped off. If we're talking WoW and the question is whether a tankadin properly prepared his gear and skills to tank an instance, and he or she did not, that is incompetence, foolishness, and laziness, worthy of derision. But I am guilty of none of those things, and it should not be the industry standard for vetted vendors like SCG to rip people like me off after they are vouched for by subreddits here. I assume this subreddit is more savvy however it is only something I found today. I would suggest someone here make a thread so that people find accurate information instead of the bullshit I found which said StarCityGames is honorable and provides accurate card gradings, said that Card Kingdom is less reliable, and said that with eBay you are likely to get claims that the cards were never received and lose all your money. Perhaps more expensive cards are a different story, with tracking and insurance, but nonetheless the indication was buylists are fair game with only a 20% lost at most, and considering the other issues and my perceived need for the money at the time, I thought a buylist was the best option. I did do my research.