Artosis was already speaking the truth...

No, you've lost yourself. I am responding to the dates you picked. First you said "since 2013", then you said "since 2018". Then since you were wrong about both of those you just started making things up to try and make Serral look better.

I was never wrong about both. The only time I was wrong was when YOU excluded Serral's WCS and EU victories. That's it.

Listen to the casters or something. Astrea is better than Creator. Simple as that. Astrea has a better winrate (in series) this year against Koreans when you exlude nobodies like fork, universe and Jinioh. They have equal winrate this year vs foreigners.

When going through match records, the vast majority of foreigners you see on Aligulac are people none of us have ever heard of, whereas only like 2 koreans I saw were.

But Koreans are farming weaker foreigners as well. Foreigners aren't farming weaker Koreans. Creator is stomping Koreans like fork, universe, Jinioh, HHQuanTa, LunaSea and ReBellioN. But he is ALSO stomping foreigners like Ashbringer, MasterVasya, PappiJoe, PiLiPiLi and NightPhoenix. Astrea isn't farming the weaker Koreans.

(1) Ryung has not made 6 Ro10s.

I misread your comment there, sorry. But even if it is only 1 in 6, we don't have NEARLY enough data to go off of when it comes the best foreigners right now and how they would perform in the GSL.

What polls? Also, who cares about a poll? It was a global tournament with a >100k prize for first place. It's absolutely a world championship, and it doesn't matter a lick to me if enough idiots got together and told each other it wasn't.

Probe did a poll before his video on who the GOAT is. It only had 2 other Koreans than Maru. Add up Serral's victories in his WCS and EU premiers. He made >100k prize from those. He also beat WAY more players than Maru did in the WESG. Those 7 premiers suddenly add up to a world championship, no?

(1) that based on the number of tournaments that have been won by zerg, over the last 5 years, which have also occurred among a wide distribution of players (meaning its not a situation like BroodWar where FlaSh is just clearly miles ahead of everyone else), Starcraft 2 has been imbalanced at the pro level in favor of Zerg for some time

I never was arguing with you there.

We have since proven that both of those things are unequivocally false.

Premier victories. That's what I said. Not international premiers. Not internationals in general. Not StarLeagues. Not World Championships. Serral won more premier tournaments out of the premier tournaments won by Zerg since 2013, than Maru won out of the premier tournaments won by Terran since 2013. This entire time you have been ignoring my comments on how Serral's WCS and EU victories are still premiers, and should be counted. You could disagree with them being counted as premiers, and that's fine. But the statistics were never wrong.

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