It wasn't pretty. It started out alright, but then it turned into a lot of testimony bearing, then into fear mongering. He actually said, "are you satisfied with only having one life with your family? Because you know you'll be separated in the next for your disobedience." I replied that if that beer was gods only reason to split up a family then he's an asshole. That started a tirade about how dare I question god and that I could never even hope to understand his ways and logic. To which I replied, it makes sense since a gospel topic essay on lds.org says that we will not become god and will not have our own planets. He then more or less called me a liar then back tracked and told me even if it is on there it didn't matter because it didn't come from over the pulpit. Then it turned to a conversation on gays. I may have lost my cool at this point, his argument was that god gives trials and they need to get over it. Then he softened a bit after some well placed logic from me. I said why would god let them be born sick and command them to be well? Again more appeals to my own misunderstanding and ignorance of god. He ended up saying there is mercy in all things...blah blah blah. I drove home a point that the reason so many in the church are on anti depressants is due to the church forcing this standard of perfection and then saying well, even after all you've done, it still won't be enough. His reply, you can't blame the church or scriptures for that. But I know that chipped his armor. He asked if I'm so anti church why I would keep checking on lds.org for the essays, I replied that I should know what was being taught to my family and to ignore it is negligence. As we were wrapping up I made a comment that if I would be punished for beer, taking a huge gulp at this point, that JS would be in Hell with me since he was a life long drinker and Smoker. That was his last straw. "Why do you even need to bring that up?!!!" To which I replied, because the next time you claim that god will separate me and my family for beer and coffee, think about the restorer of your multi billion dollar corporation and realize that he will see me in Hell. I made him give me a hug before we left but lemme tell you, I just built that shelf and piled on a few pounds.