Biden giving $1b to meat industry to subsidize their inefficiencies. If only there were efficient, low-priced foods already available to subsidize instead... oh wait...

I also notice that most fake-meat products use organic (and non-GMO) crops, which are significantly more expensive. This is because they need to make one product cater to a small market segment. With a larger market we would see cheaper non-organic variants.

I've not noticed that, but I've settled on Impossible as my "meat" of choice as they actually taste good. Seitan, tofu, and the lot are also staples that I haven't noticed any gimmicky, and often loosely regulated, organic mentions on the labels. Though I'm not super against fertilization and GMO (the latter getting a reputation that is as strawman as one can get, mostly). I also like growing my own veggies, but at scale it isn't enough to feed me or my family, so I have to buy from the markets.

I was only referring to the meat aspect. You aren't going to convert carnists with just greens and beans, you need something they think will as close to what they think they want as possible.

I, personally, make tons of veggie meals without any sort of semblance of meat around. Chickpeas, rice, and herbs are a frequent. I don't think most meat eaters realize they can get similar if not the same flavors from just spices. Cumin goes a long way to trick yourself into it being a meat dish.

And if there is any indication for the future by my lack of ability to find Impossible on the shelves anymore, there is hope.

Side note; engineered meat? Are people going to consider this "meat"?

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