For Carly who doesn't know this is going on yet? Sure, more sugar. Not B&T or even Carly in the future or maybe even in the present by how honestly angry a lot of these people sound. No one is saying giving gifts is bad full stop, in this context right now due to C&T's behavior, it's not a good thing.

Carly is 8, does she know on photos of her at visits/ or presents people have volunteered to kidnap her for her birthparent and accuse her parents of abusing her? Why would she be objecting to visits? Does she know there are people wish death on her parents as a result of C&T let these people fester to the point where people start coming up to her in the street again, like Theresa said or calling Brandon non-stop at work again telling him to give her back? No she kinda doesn't. You're saying gifts are not an issue in your life, because gifts don't negatively affect your kids. Why would it when there is literally nothing that can affect your kids negatively, as their birth parents are non-famous people who aren't on mtv and make posts about your child to their millions of followers who wish violence upon you to which they say nothing. It doesn't affect Carly it can affect you as her parent and her own safety. Said that before and you ignored it, plus your anecdotal evidence of your own life is irrelevant to their situation. Anyway I don't care enough to discuss it any more. You can if you wish.