Ah, I do. I am old, and recall when many of my male friends were much like incels/mgtow/couldn't get a date or girlfriend/ thought that they were unattractive/ thought that they would never get a woman........ when sex was always on their minds. I began dating my now-ex-husband back in high school, and these guys were my (and his) friends before and during that time. When they went away to college, some changed and some were still thinking of themselves as miserable losers who would never get a date. Now? One is still a friend of mine, and I don't think that he has ever dated, but he is still a very interesting person and instead of being the "unattractive teen/20something", he is an average looking 40yr old. The rest? Most have all married and have children, another has barely aged and looks great--he seems to have a new girlfriend every few months. Some of the men who I have met through online dating? One of the hottest ones, told me that he had no friends in high school, and he didn't even date in college--he would be a great catch for any woman, but (divorced due to his own cheating) he is enjoying his single-hood and has had many attractive girlfriends. Not one is the same young man who felt depressed, unhappy with his lot in life, thought that he would never find happiness.

How anyone's life is now, how they are perceived, what they want, what makes them unhappy or happy will change. How things are today, is not how things will be tomorrow.