Clarification

I have lurked in here for the past week or so. I've seen lots of valid points, made politely but I would agree they're mostly on the negative side, with some outright hateful posts. In general I'm a firm believer in personal privacy and so I thought it was unfair that MAN was thrust into having to deal with his drug situation so publicly in the first place. That being said I also think he deserves privacy with his recent single-ness, too. As I also do regarding how he's still coping with past addiction.

I do think this subreddit has done a good job of staying polite and civil. But I think MAN's criticism of it as negative is absolutely valid. That doesn't mean I think it should be censored, but I have yet to see a "glass-half-full" take on anything here. Nobody seems to ever give MAN the benefit of the doubt.

What I'm saying is that when I empathize with MAN and his current situation: I think he is dealing with a lot right now the best he can, which sure is not always perfect but I wouldn't jump to ill-intent so quickly. He's still somewhat recovering from last year. Some of you speculate he may still be doing drugs - I don't think so, but if he relapsed the main thing is he is clearly still committed to personal self improvement and that he has a personal support network to help him through it, which he clearly does. Battling drug addiction is certainly not easy and it is rare for people to beat it on their first try. I also think that if the drug use was a form of self-medication for something like depression, he's gotta fix the root of that problem to be ultimately successful, which again is a deeply personal and private journey.

I was happy for MAN when he started dating MrsV, they looked happy together, and while I do normally find MrsV's on-stream persona a bit abrasive for my taste I am saddened at the news today. I thought in the first place it was risky to mix "business with pleasure" as it were by incorporating her so much onto his stream and source of livelihood - whether good or bad the change of dynamic was certain to impact the look and feel of the stream - but who hasn't made some less than logical decisions early in a relationship. I think she may have been very overwhelmed with how much she would be under the lens as a result of her relationship with MAN which may have contributed to some of her recent over the top behavior. I do think she was wrong to attack dansgaming and his fanbase for example. But if you saw the backlash, I don't think she deserved the level of hate she got for it either - she was getting tweets seriously suggesting to kill herself, whereas on stream she was clearly not making literal suggestions. Overall I think MrsV is complicated - I do disagree with her approach to moderating and I do find she can sometimes overreact on stream in a rude fashion, I do think she could benefit from being more professional on stream and on social media, but after seeing how much hate she also gets (disproportionately I would say) I can at least empathize and understand why she is that way.

Finally - I don't know the circumstances of their split, but I think it's only natural to think that MAN's current state of mind and reaction on the subreddit may have been affected by it. Purely speculation, but I even considered the possibility that he may have been thinking that, if he could just delete those particularly nasty threads he could at least save her some face in what would otherwise look like a very public and embarrassing breakup if he dumped her. Or maybe she broke up with him because she couldn't handle so much scrutiny and he was attempting to prove to her it would be fine by doing whatever he could to remove them. Another possibility was that they both saw this sort of feedback and decided it wasn't going to work because MAN's livelihood depends on these people watching his stream. I don't know if any of those are what really happened, or that MAN's handling of the subreddit was therefore justified, but I wanted to point out that there are clearly scenarios where anybody would be motivated to at least consider doing what he did without malice towards his viewers. I sincerely hope his stream viewers did not have a significant impact on their decision to separate, but you can see how my hypotheticals are even a little bit heartbreaking if it did, regardless of how you personally feel about MrsV. I hope he and MrsV can both get over it quickly - all breakups suck and I can't even imagine what it would be like with so many viewers.

I don't have a great TL;DR but basically just cut MAN a little slack, consider all the things he is now recovering from in the past 12 months and his potential state of mind before just assuming he hates us all and views us as a money source. Imagine a little bit how much stress you would be under having to deal with all of that and then seeing real-people's feedback towards you and your girlfriend and negativity towards what is your primary source of income. Assume for once the possibility that MAN is trying his humanly best to be the best person and caster he can be.

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