CMV: The fact that Jewish-Americans and Asian-Americans are more successful than European-Americans on average, shows that the problems of African-Americans are mostly not due to racism.

we accept that humans have come to the state that they are in physically, because they evolved that way. We accept that humans are in the state that they are in mentally, because they have evolved that way. We see that humans have evolved to have distinct physical characteristics based on their racial group (that's why there are different racial groups) if we have seen differences in our physical evolution, there is absolutely no reason not to also assume that we will see differences in our mental evolution, and as a matter of fact, that those are the base results that we see. However we deny common sense, along with the base results, because the pathways of other races aren't completely identical, and we take for granted the conjecture about with MIGHT happen if the pathways were all equivilant.

yes, when it comes to racial differneces, the pathways aren't equivilant, and so there is some conjecture involved in saying that there are racial differneces all things being equal. However, there is far less conjecture in that avenue of thinking, then any other avenue of thinking. Your ideas about the culture trauma of systemic racism for example, have even less basis in fact, than the IQ gaps. Yet the IQ gaps are the arguments that would get discredited for involving too much conjecture. There is no logical consistency to that WHATSOEVER. It is a blatantly bias interpretation of the situation.

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