CMV: If you believe you are an 'actively ethical' person you should be a vegetarian.

Do you have a specific example?

White-tailed Deer are over populated in many parts of the US. This over population results in them overgrazing vegetation (harming the plant populations and anything that relies on those plants for food).

Wild Boar is terribly invasive across the southern US, where they tear up entire fields, which in turn causes severe erosion and problems for any species that uses those fields as habitat.

European Starlings out compete native species in the US for nesting space. Their aggressiveness means that the local species that did not evolve to compete with them have trouble beating them out for nesting space.

Snow Geese are heavily over populated and currently rapidly increasing in population. this results in over consumption of their food sources and beating out other waterfowl for nesting space.

Lionfish

Crown-of-thorns

Zebra Musssel

Snakehead

You are missing the point, it's about dealing unnecessary harm to beings that feel pain and have life.

I find that of minuscule importance when compared to the maintenance of the whole of an ecosystem. That combined with the fact that all animals in nature die and are eaten by something at some point (including humans as much as we would like to prevent it), means that I see little harm in death itself so long as it is conducted in a sustainable manner.

Can you provide a specific example of this? I'm unfamiliar of the idea that grazing herd would be a better use of land than leaving it alone or farming.

you are acting as if livestock is less or equally impactful on the environment as growing vegetables. I think this is disingenuous, unless you can provide significant evidence in adverse to the referenced page I linked you.

For raising cows, in actual practice, is this the case though? You sure there hasn't been significant deforestation and habitat destruction to make way for the demand for beef and milk?

And some do not. California and Texas are two of the leading producing states for milk and beef in the country. They are constantly teetering or actually IN a state of drought. And the area that a cow is raised is not a closed system, they have to get that water from somewhere.

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