CMV: I'm a man who finds MRA more irritating than respectworthy.

You keep saying toxicity and vitriol. That's all I see from feminists that are well known. I will again say that's confirmation bias. You see misogynists and think that's all MRAs, but it's not. Most men want equality. I'd say that most men (including you) don't know enough about the movement to realize that it actually has a lot of good merits. So there's a lot of men (including you) that think it's all about hating women, but it's not. That's like saying all religious people are bigots just because I know a handful that are.

Let's talk about discrimination for a minute. Have you ever been denied a job because of your sex? I have. I had a female professor tell me she doesn't hire men.

Have you ever had a woman forcibly insert herself into you? I have. Then she started crying and begged me to make her stop, so I did. Then she ran out of the room crying and saying that I pushed her into it even though I asked her to stop repeatedly.

That same girl: I told my friends in the dorm (this was about 10 years ago) not to let her into my room, especially if I've been drinking... After passing out drunk, she convinced them to let her in, then I asked her to leave and told her I don't want to have sex (months after we broke up). I woke up with a used condom next to my bed.

Let's talk about STEM. My wife has a job. I don't. We applied to the same company (although at different times). She got a job. I didn't. We had the same degree. I now have a masters and she doesn't.

I worked with a girl that hit me in the balls when we were playing cards cuz I said "bitch". I was mostly calling the cards a bitch, but if she called me a dick and I punched her twat, don't you think I'd be in jail? We remained friends for a long time after that even though you could consider that assault.

I had another girl accuse me of sexual assault because I asked her to have sex with me. This was after her saying the week before that she knew if she got drunk she'd have sex with me. Then she got drunk so I asked. I never touched her. I just asked. Once again, I could have been put in jail for bullshit.

These are all things that have happened to be personally, but I have a friend who recently got a divorce. He raised his kids while his wife grew to be an ER doc and major in the army. She got custody (of course) and he has to pay child support. He doesn't make much because he spent his life raising kids instead of excelling at his job.

I absolutely agree that women face sexism on a daily basis, but saying men don't is ignorant (I know you didn't say that, but most people against MRM do say that).

This movement is more important than a handful of trolls you may have experienced. And if you equate the entire movement with a couple if ignorant trolls, then you're no better than the idiots who say feminism is all about hating men.

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