CMV:Immigration and its Implications

reposting the comments that have been removed by dishonest, unscrupulous mods of CMV.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/september_2014/voters_strongly_oppose_legal_rights_government_benefits_for_illegal_immigrants

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-americans-would-decrease-legal-immigration-poll/

According to a report, released by the Washington DC-based Center for Immigration Studies, 76 percent of “immigrant” households with children receive welfare, a figure which dwarfs even the high American black welfare dependency.

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households

The report, titled “Welfare Use by Immigrant and Native Households; An Analysis of Medicaid, Cash, Food, and Housing Programs” contained the following conclusions:

•In 2012, 51 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) reported that they used at least one welfare program during the year, compared to 30 percent of native households. Welfare in this study includes Medicaid and cash, food, and housing programs.

•Welfare use is high for both new arrivals and well-established immigrants. Of households headed by immigrants who have been in the country for more than two decades, 48 percent access welfare.

•Welfare use is still 46 percent for immigrants and 28 percent for natives. Not counting Medicaid, welfare use is 44 percent for immigrants and 26 percent for natives.

•Immigrant households have much higher use of food programs (40 percent vs. 22 percent for natives) and Medicaid (42 percent vs. 23 percent). * Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest.

•Many immigrants struggle to support their children, and a large share of welfare is received on behalf of U.S.-born children. However, even immigrant households without children have significantly higher welfare use than native households without children — 30 percent vs. 20 percent.

•In 2012, 76 percent of households headed by an immigrant who had not graduated high school used one or more welfare programs, as did 63 percent of households headed by an immigrant with only a high school education.

•The high rates of immigrant welfare use are not entirely explained by their lower education levels. Households headed by college-educated immigrants have significantly higher welfare use than households headed by college-educated natives — 26 percent vs. 13 percent.

•In the four top immigrant-receiving states, use of welfare by immigrant households is significantly higher than that of native households: California (55 percent vs. 30 percent), New York (59 percent vs. 33 percent), Texas (57 percent vs. 34 percent), and Florida (42 percent vs. 28 percent).

•The heavy use of welfare by less-educated immigrants has three important policy implications: 1) prior research indicates that illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly less-educated, so allowing them to stay in the country creates significant welfare costs; 2) by admitting large numbers of less-educated immigrants to join their relatives, the legal immigration system brings in many immigrants who are likely to access the welfare system; and 3) proposals to allow in more less-educated immigrants to fill low-wage jobs would create significant welfare costs.

•If one assumes that immigration is supposed to benefit the country, then immigrant welfare use should be much lower than natives’. Instead, the SIPP shows that, two decades after welfare reform tried to curtail immigrant eligibility, immigrant-headed households are using welfare at much higher rates than native households for most programs. Based on data collected in 2012, 51 percent of households headed by immigrants (legal or illegal) reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 30 percent of native-headed households. In addition to having higher welfare use, immigrant households pay less in taxes to the federal government on average than native households.

The center’s report is based on 2012 data from the Census Bureau’s Survey of Income and Program Participation. It includes immigrants who have become naturalized citizens, legal permanent residents, those on short-term visas and undocumented immigrants.

Another problem is immigrants’ use of hospital and emergency services rather than preventative medical care. For example, utilization rate of hospitals and clinics by illegal aliens (29 percent) is more than twice the rate of the overall U.S. population (11 percent). As a result, the costs of medical care for immigrants are staggering. The estimated cost of unreimbursed medical care in 2004 in California was about $1.4 billion per year. In Texas, the estimated cost was about $8.5 billion, and in Arizona the comparable estimate was $4 billion per year.

According to the National Research Council, the migration of illegal aliens into the United States costs American taxpayers $346 billion annually.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/publications/popular/CIS2013.pdf

The immigration surplus or benefit to natives created by illegal immigrants is estimated at around $9 billion a year or 0.06 percent of GDP — six one-hundredths of 1 percent.

Although the net benefits to natives from illegal immigrants are small, there is a sizable redistribution effect. Illegal immigration reduces the wage of native workers by an estimated $99 to $118 billion a year, and generates a gain for businesses and other users of immigrants of $107 to $128 billion.

It's not hard to understand why people are anti-immigration. There's a very large cost for them and only a real gain for businesses, all for a miniscule amount of value added to the economy.

Recent immigrants (legal and illegal) and their children commit much more crime than the native white and Asian population, they only commit less crime when you include the black and Hispanic US citizen population. Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In NY it was 34%. During those years criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in CA, TX, AZ, FL, and NY while illegal aliens account for only 5.6% of the total population of those states (according to US Census estimate- although we believe more than double that number reside in the US in reality). That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total 18,643.

A lot of Hispanics are getting categorized as white to understate the amount of criminal activity they are involved in. LOOK: https://imgur.com/a/RGGPg

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/undocumented-immigrants-increasingly-filling-arizona-prisons/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/immigrants-in-us-jails-steady-at-about-25-percent-of-inmates/2011/03/23/AFRFMHPE_blog.html - This includes local and county jails and state prisons instead of just federal prisoners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/us/19immig.html?_r=0

Latino convicts now represent the largest ethnic population in the federal prison system, accounting for 40 percent of those convicted of federal crimes, according to a study released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan research organization.

Latinos made up only 13 percent of the United States adult population in 2007, but they accounted for one third of federal prison inmates that year

Illegal immigration is a net drain on the economy. Illegal immigrants often live 3-4 families in one house and only pay one set of school taxes then send 15kids in the house to school for ESL classes, don't pay their ER hospital bills which drives up the price for everyone else, they work off the books and don't pay income taxes, they have anchor babies and claim welfare benefits in the child's name. Hospitals along the boarder towns all the way from Texas to California have been shut down due to bankruptcy from illegal immigrants using service and not paying. The welfare system will collapse if you allow endless immigration from the 3rd world. Mass immigration of poor people with no resources drives down wages. We have a glut in the supply of labor partially because of too many low-income immigrants competing for the same jobs instead of creating jobs. If many of the illegals left, employers would have to pay Americans higher wages to do those jobs. The immigrant generations of old were not looking for a victim narrative as an excuse to undermine private property and implement socialistic policies.

After all the public assistance and jails over capacity with illegals, it costs way more to keep them than to promote policies that encourage them to self deport and build a giant wall on the border ($16billion is nothing by comparison). The benefits of illegal immigration only go to a portion of the companies who employ them and everyone else has to pay more taxes and high healthcare costs to subsidize them. It doesn't benefit most Americans at all to have them employed as cheap labor competing for American jobs and driving down wages in the process.

Thanks to the changing demographics from mass immigration "Americans" are now dumber than they've ever been as result of importing "new Americans" from some of the lowest educated populations of the world.

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