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Except that /u/Stembolt_Sealer is right, even your rebuttal displays the same type of rhetoric that was used to fearmonger against the LGB community.

I'd like the same rights as other people, that is, the right to have my relationship recognized in law, not be beaten up or discriminated against. This is nothing like what transsexuals want.

First off, I'll assume you mean transgendered people, since TS only refers to those who have undergone SRS or a type of porn.

And that list? That's pretty much what the transgender community wants. And that last part is what I'm going to focus on.

Transsexuals want to force me to lie about reality. A man isn't a woman. Sorry, but they just aren't.

A fact most of us are painstakingly aware of, which is why we get surgery in the first place. We don't think that any of the process magically alters our biology, but it does help our Gender Presentation align with our Gender Identity regardless of our biology. We don't expect anyone to deny the facts, we just don't see the bearing they have on day-to-day lives or non-romantic human interactions, so we'd like assholes to stop pointing out that we will never be biologically who we want to be unless it is literally pertinent to the discussion at hand (hint: it never is when it happens).

They also want to get men and women who aren't interested in their real sex to sleep with them.

Jesus christ. Do you actually believe this crap? What you have just said is that effectively, all trans people are rapists. This is the same type of bullshit rhetoric that kept gay guys from having jobs that worked with children, and that continues to marginalize them in male dominated spaces.

I'd like to clear this up once and for all, because this seems to be a talking point every time I see a transphobic post on Reddit:

Trans people are not rapists. If you don't want to have sex with us, we do not want to force ourselves on you. That is not how sex works, and surprisingly, there are people who will willingly sleep with us even while knowing we are trans.

Assuming that trans people can't keep their hands off of cis people is just so narcissistic sounding.

It is wrong to force me to call a man a woman.

No one wants to force you to act like a decent person. We would just appreciate it if you did. You don't have to be in any kind of intimate relationship with trans people ever if you don't want to, we just want you to respect our wishes to be treated like the gender we mentally are, and not the biology we physically have. You don't have to be attracted to transmen, they just want to be called men.

When it comes down to it, you are refusing to treat others with the respect they desire because it doesn't align with biology, which is only part of a person's identity. Is that how you really want to be treated by others? It's akin to people pointing out that homosexuality serves no evolutionary purpose and then refusing to acknowledge your sexuality - e.g. constantly trying to hook you up with girls, throwing every little bit of media that denigrates being gay in your face, constantly trying to get you to attend church and "pray the gay away," etc. Oh wait, that probably already happens, and it sucks, so why would you want to continue that chain of bullying?

And it's wrong to emotionally blackmail people into sleeping with a sex they aren't interested in.

Yes, it is. Which is why this is literally classified as emotional and sexual abuse, and has nothing to do with the way the trans community wants to be treated.

Please don't respond. I only asked the questions to give you something to think about, not to hear answers that come from a position of cultural bias and ignorance. I've got enough of that in my life.

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