Daily Discussion Thread 04/02/2016

You quoted me as saying "He does what he wants" when I said "he says what he wants" so you'd basically prefer he found a different way to express himself?

I thought Freestyle was hype as fuck and I enjoyed it just as much as Tylers remix. I agree with FML I think he should have switched up his flow earlier, I don't play that one too much. Idk what to say about Teal Friends to you since you've 2 different opinions on it. Yeah you're definitely in music for the lyrics if Ultralight beams is your favorite.

It really feels like Kanye has got too caught up in his persona as this deep artist or something and is trying to make something complicated(hell he has basically even SAID as much) and deep without either a) having anything in particular coherent to say and b) knowing properly how to execute it. He already hit on a lot of these themes waaaay more effectively on MBDTF and Yeezus. And the sort of self loathing he has poetically addressed on tracks like Blame Game, or Welcome to Heartbreak comes across on this album as a retread at best, and teen angst sophomoric at worst. Especially when compared with the pointless vulgarity, and just straight bad writing of the project as a whle.

I am not fixed on not liking it. I was cautiously optimistic going into the album. Real Friends and No More Parties were decent tracks when I heard their single/good friday releases(and they still are two of the best tracks on the album). Ultralight Beam is the best track on the record and starts it off on a high note so I got very excited. And like I said, I count College Dropout and MBDTF as 2 of my top 5 albums of all time. But these lyrics are not just meh, they are actively painful to listen to. And like I said, I am a listener who prioritizes lyrics heavily. So at the end of the day, this album could have been literally the most well produced album in the history of the genre, and it probably wasn't getting more than a 6.5 out of me(which is above average, because I try to use the whole width of a 10 point scale, 5 is average). Instead, I felt the production was uneven, taking it even further down. I have listened to nearly 70 new projects this year and Pablo is somewhere in the 40-50's in terms of my personal rankings. I didn't want to hate this project. I really didn't. But unfortunately I kind of do.

Edit: And I can see the appeal in this album. I can understand why people like it. It is just not my thing whatsoever.

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