Darth Vader looking Lexus IS [750 x 743]

Holy fuck you can't read. I don't believe it.

I'll repeat what I said in an earlier comment.

The LFA CF body allowed to make it with more sharp angles than metal ever could. Because of this it allowed to produce much more downforce while keeping a very low cx of 0.31.

Are you really comparing a full carbon body with studied aero, Nurburgring hotlapper with a Subaru with a tacky wing on the ass? You are discrediting yourself here buddy.

All they did was find an insanely expensive way to do something that had already been done

I'd be with you if anyone did it for cheaper back then. Fact is, nobody did.

You're just playing with words and twisting them trying to make them sound right. Now "body is relative and is more cosmetic than anything"? OK, I guess we should return to the 60s with square boxes then. Why McLaren and Ferrari are wasting billions in wind tunnels to fine tune aero when "body is more cosmetic than anything"

Your last quote from McLaren proves that it's not really worth anything

The quote says that a CF body didn't do much about structural rigidity, which make sense, that's the point of the CF tub. They said nothing about weight. Again, you're picking straws.

The Nuerburgring is a single track, it's about as meaningless as zero to sixty times

Here you just proved that you know sweet fuck all about performance. Nurburgring is a mix of nearly every imaginable corner type, on an uneven surface. If you do well on the Nurburgring, you'll do well on the road as well as any track. There's a reason why the ring is a benchmark.

as zero to sixty times except most people do actually get to go zero to sixty in their cars from time to time.

People can't tell the difference between a 0-60 in 3.5 or 3.6 either, is this really your argument here? Again: picking straws.

If the LFA was "too expensive" for what it was, then the Aventador was(still is), the LaFerrari was, the 918 was, the P1 was, and pretty much all super cars that aren't mass produced. Yet no one bat an eye about a $1M+ hyper car doing barely 15s better on the Nurburgring than the LFA(which is already incredibly expensive. Remember? You said that).

"My car came from a cooler production line than yours" isn't really a selling point that makes it worth twice what its competitors go for.

The only LFA real issue was that it was a Lexus. They aren't an exotic brand. Otherwise it was priced accordingly to the car specs and quality. See the Aventador. It performed similarly, same CF body, similar tech, priced similarly. Yet it sold way better just because it's a Lamborghini.

And yes the "my car is more special than yours" selling argument totally works. We wouldn't see 250k F430 Scuderia on the market and 500k 911R otherwise.

Do you have any other straw arguments to present?

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