Dealing with unhealthy 5 - pathological lying, manipulation, isolation

yeah that description i used was very vague and could apply to anyone with depression really. but i guess i meant that 5s typically wouldn't invent anything to themselves or others. not saying that they're not a 5, but 5s aren't a type to cause this many problems with others, because they would normally just avoid people and be negative, so the relationships would just kind of dissolve without much drama. pathological lying and manipulation are usually associated with more dramatic, image-based, or relational types. but yeah since you're living with them, i agree with you. you should just try to stay as neutral as possible. i've had a close friend with borderline personality disorder start stealing from my roommate (who was also their friend) and they told us their dad just died in prison after we confronted them. so we kind of let it go, only for it to turn out that their dad was alive and had never been in prison.

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