Religion gets it's edicts from the holy books. The holy books are unchanging. The evolution of the individual members of a religion is made possible by rationality, empathy, science, and the zeitgeist. So if the bible condones slavery, but modern civilized societies do not, where did that progression come from? Thin air? We have made considerable moral progress over the years, and we didn’t make this progress by reading the Bible or the Koran more closely. Both books condone the practice of slavery -- and yet every civilized human being now recognizes that slavery is an abomination. Whatever is good in scripture, like the golden rule, can be valued for its ethical wisdom without requiring us to believe that it was handed down to us by the creator of the universe.
Errs a lot. Is also not real. Doesn't make it less true that scriptures are interpreted.
Yes they are interpreted. Here's how some are interpreted.
Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take this view.
So what's your point? Nothing you are saying here takes away from the fact that despite possible "interpretations", slavery is condoned in both books.
You have to show that you can change what has been in those nooks for centuries.
I'm still waiting.
A pernicious, untrue statement. It'll remain that until you familiarize yourself with history. And then it'll probably change.
So if the bible condones slavery, but modern civilized societies do not, where did that progression come from?
Sam M'Harris, when he's just shootin' the shit and firin' from the hip. Or a guy from Fox News. I'll let you decide.
More hollow statements that mean nothing.
Next.
Ha. A piece of historic art is hardly useless. The messages people choose to take from the book, also, not useless. Can be good. Can be bad. Let's hope for good.
Books that condone slavery are only useful to teach us that those books were barbaric, immoral, written by man and of their time.
The messages people choose to take from the book, also, not useless.
Again, any moral imperative in the bible that lines up with modern civilized morality, does so by accident.
The savages that killed the charlie hebdo cartoonists did so because they want to follow what the Hadith explicitly tells them to do.
REALLY USEFUL... what a piece of art.
Own Slaves. Now thats art.
With every post you continue to sputter, use baseless insults and project your own faults.
You are an irrational apologist.
So if the bible condones slavery, but modern civilized societies do not, where did that progression come from?
You still can't answer that. You never will be able to without conceding what I've been saying all along.