3. Why did God create Lucifer?

Why did God create Lucifer?

I suspect there was no subset of create-able universes where some of the free-will creatures did not rebel.

Why? And as a follow up, why does god want free will creatures that don't rebel? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of free will?

I mean God wants us to make our own decisions, but only if those decisions where the ones he wanted us to make. What kind of sense does that make?

Why give us free will and then punishing us every time we use it.

Because if the only thing we ever do is God's will, then we are never using our free will. We are just blindly obeying. So on the one hand you say God doesn't want mindless robots, but if he ever gets anything less than that, he sends them to a place of eternal torture.

Which leads to the question why is free will better than the illusion of free will?

Let me explain. If the entire universe is (as the Calvinists claim) pre ordianed from the beginning to the end, there is no free will. Every single thing that we have ever chose, was never really our choice. It was the only possible choice that we could have ever made. It would be impossible for us to make a different choice than the one we did. So even though we think that we made that choice, we didn't. It was already made for us by fate/god/etc.

So why not have a universe similar to that, where we honestly believe we have free will, but our choices are predetermined beforehand. Thus eliminating unnecessary suffering.

Also, there are multiple ways to intervene without violating free will.

After killing a couple million Jews, don't you think it would have been okay for God to just go ahead and strike Hitler dead?

He used to that kind of stuff all the time in the bible. He once killed a guy just for touching the ark to try to keep it from falling in the mud. He killed two guys for offering up the wrong sacrifice. God used to straight up kill people all the time. In fact, he once killed Jobs entire family just to win a bet against Satan. If he never violated their free will by doing that, why would it be a violation of free will for god to kill Hitler? Why would it be a violation of free will for god to stop someone from raping a child (say by killing them).

Some people think it's because God simply didn't foreknow what his creatures would do

But isn't God all knowing? And if he didn't know, why didn't he know? Also, (once again) why give them free will if he never wanted them to use it?

Because that's the only way someone could use free will. The only thing free will introduced that was different was the option to disobey god. So how is it that god the wisest being that ever existed, didn't figure out that giving people the option to disobey him would result in some people disobeying him?

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