[Discussion] How would you stop collapse?

I'm hearing dogwhistles for a surveillance state with sanctioned oppression, concentration camps, mass starvation and genocide. The 20th Century already tried that; see Stalin's Soviet Union; Mao's China; Pol Pot's Cambodia; (or for the 21st Century, see Venezuela or the plight of Uighurs in China).

Also, othing in that post refers to the current crisis with unsustainable overpopulation, mass species extinction, climate change or the worldwide loss of essential resources including global topsoil, rainforests, ocean fisheries and freshwater aquifers. If you are planning on eliminating fossil fuels, how will you feed the billions who currently depend on industrial agriculture for food?

Our issues are not going to be solved with 19th Century political theory but with sound ecological science, including DeGrowth, sustainable farming and family planning. Or not.

The last thing we need is more authoritarian movements to add to the world's misery. But TBH, that seems as highly unlikely as any other solution that requires the cooperation of billions. There is a reason why humanity is on a trajectory towards collapse.

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