There aren't incels because the same things that makes a person an incel makes them useless in conversations. Conversations about incel shit, and conversations in general. This isn't true about trans people.

Idrc one way or the other if virgins are shamed. If Destiny can be persuaded to pay the personal price of limiting his speech more than it is already limited, no skin off my back.

I do think against these righty red pill types it's valuable though, because it highlights precisely why tradcons, red pills, and similar types just have no concept of sexual chemistry. They're either virgins, or don't stay with women long enough to understand it. They're also generally communities that value being humiliated more than being soy-boy handheld/reasoned into a position.