You can think what you want but it's clear to me your don't really know what you are talking about. You seem to not know exactly what propaganda is or how it is supposed to work. Like I said, it is very telling, and makes me embarrassed for you, that you seem to think western propaganda doesn't exist or shape your worldview.

Secondly, you have a slew of straw man arguments you made against me. I was at no point making any defense of Russia or Putin. I honestly have no idea how you even arrive at that conclusion from what I wrote. Is if defending someone to point out they are good at propaganda? I said the west was best at it and no comment from you but when I point out that Putin is good at it, I am a Russian defender now? Please use a bit of consistent logic.

I also have no idea where all these Russians you talk about are. There are barely any Russians on this sub. The russophobia ensures that. The ones that are here are probably split 50 50 in who defends Russia and those that criticize Russia. For every pro Putin shill, there are 10 fervently anti Russia posters that pander to every little anti Russia sentiment they can. Look at the spam that u/Russian Spring constantly posts and gets up voted.

I also never said the west was worse at anything. You just blatantly made that up. You are dishonest and a liar in that case.

In reference to your last sentence. Journalists do end up dead in Russia too much. However, why is it that every event that happens in Russia is some carefully crafted plan in the grand Putin boogeyman conspiracy theory, but if something similar happens in the west, it's always an accident?

Look up Michael Hastings and tarek ayoub. You don't need to put a bullet in someones head in a hallway to shut them up. There are other ways to do it. You are probably too brainwashed to see that though.