EDMC Violated The Constitution

Please don't patronize me with this "honey" crap. All schools are not created equal. And no, I didn't create this petition.

"It is a student's responsibility to find a job upon graduation. Some universities may provide career services, but I am not aware of any university that will find a job for you."

I understand what you're saying, however: Not to be insulting, it's apparent to me you are unaware of their practices. It was stated word for word to myself and my fellow classmates that they WILL find a job for us. Every concern was buffered with a "we'll take care of this" sort of mentality. Sure, naturally an experienced adult would assume that you yourself are responsible for searching for a job, but these are young adults/teenagers they are dealing with, most of whom are unaware and easily manipulated through false trust based on false claims.

" This is common across all universities and is expected with certain degrees. Do students really think that with an English degree they will be a famous writer? No.."

You're completely missing the point, read previous reply above. Being that we had no experience on how the hiring process worked, we expected the school to help us better understand that aspect considering that is what they told us. After all they are the experienced ones, are they not? Why the hell would ANYONE jump into a career that is knowingly overly saturated and less likely to succeed in?

" YES! This is college-level work. Most college classes have professors there to facilitate the learning. It is the student's responsibility to use the textbook and learn. The professor is there to clarify and answer any questions. This is increasingly common. The value of a flipped class is in the repurposing of class time into a workshop where students can inquire about lecture content, test their skills in applying knowledge, and interact with one another in hands-on activities. During class sessions, instructors function as coaches or advisors, encouraging students in individual inquiry and collaborative effort."

Again, I don't think you quite understand what's going on...I understand students helping students, however there's a difference here: There were many situations where the teacher would barely teach anything to us at all and by the 4th year I had students asking the most basic of questions, questions that should have been answered in the first year. How was it that they managed to pass their first few classes without even knowing the basics of what those classes were trying to teach to begin with? This isn't an isolated incident, it's a common theme. I'm all for helping your fellow classmate, but you shouldn't have to teach your classmates the basics, that's what the teachers are being paid for! This directly affected the learning curve and prevented specific students in growing their own abilities by constantly having to help their classmates. The review process for quality teachers seemed to be lacking, and in one instance a teacher lied about his credentials, yet was allowed to teach anyway. I don't have online evidence of this event unfortunately so I'm probably just going to be discredited for this, if that's the case, so be it. I was in that class.

"A lawsuit is typically a CIVIL matter, not criminal. Your school may have engaged in unethical behavior, but you have provided nothing to suggest it was criminal. Additionally, the lawsuit is to recoup money (such as pell grants). Why should you be given this money when it was never yours in the first place?"

Admittedly, maybe crime was the wrong word choice for this, but there's no excuse for what went and goes on at these schools. And you ask "Why should you be given this money when it was never yours in the first place?" because what was promised, discussed, signed off on, PAID FOR, and approved was never delivered. I understand with this whole "student loan issue" blowing up in the US in general, it's easy to roll your eyes at the situation. I get it, everyone wants to have their loans forgiven and not everyone has a legitimate reason other than they hate being in debt, but the Art Institute never delivered on their signed promises and the students are struggling just to survive as a result. Again, "why should you be given this money?" because we were the victims in this situation and deserve compensation for the lack of education and false claims provided. When you take out a loan, typically you don't start paying it back until after graduation, correct? While alumni have been paying this back, the government simultaneously has received (or will receive) $11 billion for compensation on this issue. That means not only are they still collecting from alumni, but ALSO getting their money back directly from the school. How does this make any sense?

" Again, you provide no evidence to back this up."

As stated in the linked article: "The government says EDMC violated federal rules against paying recruiters based on the number of students enrolled. Those rules are designed to prevent colleges from recruiting unqualified students just to collect student aid money." They directly targeted individuals that would be unable to pay off these debts. YOU may be an ethical grounded person, but these practices and what these recruiters have done is just insulting and unethical. My personal experience just adds to the situation. When all is said and done, the bottom line is The Art Institute is and has always been a scam promoting false ideas and have yet to fully pay the penalty.

http://www.gibsondunn.com/publications/Documents/EDMC-Complaint.pdf

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/06/04/58190.htm

http://www.law360.com/articles/535129/for-profit-schools-can-t-escape-11b-fca-suit

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/davidhalperin/edmc-professors-and-stude_b_1909449.html

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-files-complaint-against-education-management-corp-alleging-false-claims-act-violations

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/for-profit-college-implosion-intensifies-as-campuses-shut-down

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