Even after being secure and confident with myself I still find chasing women to be a waste of time

When you "get it"...get back with me. Here's a little inside information though: Our buddy OP as the example put forth all that effort to get with 2 girls...a 5 and a 6. Why? Because he was shooting above his SMP/V. Plain and simple. We all have a place in the SMP. It is what it is. You can try to "Looks Max", gain wealth/status...whatever you want to try to "improve" your SMV. Go for it. But it isn't going to accomplish much. "Chad" accepts his SMV in the SMP and all the little hotties that his SMV bring for him. He doesn't "Looks Max", worry about wealth, status, intelligence, etc, etc, etc. He just pursues what comes his way. Easy-peasy. If your SMV brings you 2s or 3s or 4s or 5s...then just work your ass off like OP, until you can figure out that that 6, yeah, she's not worth all of the extra effoert. But, hey, you've got standards. LMAO.

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