....that is not a very good comparison. Shove is a counter attack reaction/prediction based punish, like bulwark, but the utility is different. So different. Sure the shove has hyper armor and a guaranteed light. That's it. But if I'm playing decent people I'm very likely not going to land that shove. Bulwark is different. It doesn't have a big ass orange glow that let's you know its coming. Also its fast af like all allguards tend to be.

ALSO>>>Bulwark counter flips the shove. I've had it happened numerous times. Because it's very easy. You know what else bulwark flips? Almost everything. Name a move it doesnt flip, more like.

I honestly don't know if that's a fair comparison at all. No bias. The shove just doesn't seem to have half as much utility to it AND I have to catch you off guard pretty heavily to land it. Bulwark comes out of nowhere. It's like wardens SB, in that regard, in the fact that sure its theoretically possible to predict and gb but how often does that actually happen.

And saying its because a person isn't trying hard enough to read for it isn't true, is beside the point, and completely skates over how easy it is to do that move versus how hard it is to stop.