I understand the frustration with a lot of online feminist rhetoric but I really think MRAs should work with feminists instead of against them. Most real, non internet feminists do care about the lives of men and how they are harmed by society. When feminists talk about toxic masculinity they’re talking about the ways in which natural traits associated with masculinity and warped and used against both men and women. For example, let’s take something like bravery which I would argue is a traditionally masculine trait. In and of itself bravery is a highly admirable traditionally masculine quality, but when twisted through frameworks of toxic masculinity that bravery becomes the pressure for men to never show vulnerability, making it so men don’t have healthy emotional outlets, which has consequences for both genders.

Healthy masculinity that encourages traits like bravery, strength, selflessness, determination, perseverance, etc, that’s all good, and not what feminists are criticizing.

Feminists are criticizing when toxic masculinity takes bravery and strength and twists those into aggression and violence and hurts both men and women with the consequences.

I’ve always felt like men’s rights activists and feminists should be working together. I’m a feminist and I feel deeply for the ways in which our society hurts men and I want to contribute to healing that, I just wish MRAs could see caring about women’s issues and men’s issues as less mutually exclusive than what is presented by stupid online feminism.