never said that's why they have issues nor why we need a coach, but assume some more things while you're at it. considering we literally only let santorin play gragas the entire split when that was never his style of jungling and did the same with sven always let people get their one trick champs and time after time they picked them to do exactly what they do best on that champ to lose the game. our pick bans have never been optimal. regardless if its meta or not you can't just spam gragas and hope your junlgers not gonna feed invading every game. now im also not saying its only the junglers fault because i assume thats what your reply would be if i didn't say that