idk how you're really not getting it, 3rd or 4th is still good wtf. You seem to think I only want him because he went #1 which is dumb, if the entire leagues consensus is that he's a top 5 pick, which even you seem to think, then obviously he must have been good in college. And he looked good in Summer league before physical/mental issues became more severe. In short, regardless of being #1, he looked good before and I still think he has the tools to become good again if he can get over these barriers.
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however, this is the last time I'm going to say it, as it is right now, I don't value Fultz that highly, I would not trade most of our semi decent players for him. The fact that the most I'm willing to give for Fultz is Blakeney and 2nd rounders or some other low value bench player that we have should show you how much I think Fultz is worth, i.e. very little. I don't think it's likely, in fact it's very unlikely that it would ever happen, I know that, I've never said otherwise, but if Philly really wanted Fultz out, and there really were no other better options, and they got desperate enough, I would be down to take Fultz. And I'm down to do that seeing how bad our bench is, it's not like we could get worse with Fultz, but then if everything works out and Fultz becomes really good, then that's a big bonus. In summary, get Fultz for low value bench players and 2nd rounders, the team will probably not be the same either way, but at least Fultz has the potential to be good.
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The chances I think of this happening is probably less than 1% but in the situation I described, we give up practically nothing, our team will be pretty much the same either way and then maybe, just maybe, if everything works out by some miracle, we could have a really good player in Fultz in a year or 2. that's as clear as I can spell it out.
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But hey man, in the end, we're both rooting for the same team, we both just want the team to be good, I don't mean to come off as obnoxious or standoffish. I'll probably delete this comment in a day or 2 but I wish you the best of luck and hope we can be buddies.