GC (americans I guess too): How do you feel about growing push to defund and abolish police?

This doesn't mean that we also shouldnt stymie police nowbecause, WTF, have you fucking seen them!?

I never said that. I think funding could be better spent on things that lower crime in the first place. But that's not the same as getting rid of all law enforcement.

You act like the police have always been around and that we have always been better for it, which is simply not true. They are a pretty novel concept. Violence is endemic to police states, police dont exist because violence is inevitable.

How far back are you going??? Women have been treated with violence for a looooooong time. In almost all cultures. By your logic that means police states have been around as long?

I also never said we were better for it. I just wanted to know if you prefer vigilante justice.

Honestly how far back are you going that there haven't been people enforcing whatever laws of the land there are? Even if they werent literally called police?

I do agree our modern police are a more modern development, because obviously.

What is required is something radically different and demands very different ways of living, requiring mutual dependency and solidarity that police themselves are activited to prevent from occuring.

Im not being sarcastic in hoping that what you want comes to pass. This all sounds good. I guess I'm just pessimistic about the human race.

I do appreciate you expanding on your ideas here, so thank you.

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