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Here's why example 1 is illogical:

Society has never decided murder is wrong. We have decided murder between civilian citizens of the same nation is wrong.

Soldiers kill people and it's often seen as good. Police kill people and it's often seen as good. The state kills people and it's often seen as good.

This qualifies that not all murder is seen as bad. Which supports the conclusion that murder, as long as percived as justified is moral and acceptable.

Consequently morals dont play a role, as some murder is accepted, what plays a role is that order must be kept. Thus the prohibition on murder between civilian citizens is seen as bad, as it hurts order. So to maintain order there is a law agaisnt murder.

Not because all murder is seen as unethical and immoral.

Here's why example 2 has a wrong conclusion:

Informed consent comes from the concept of right of body: ie you decide what happened with your body.

Right of body is a moral value shared between most people, thus creating the concept of informed consent.

A law however, is just a tool for upholding order, to support order, right of body is accepted and legal methods devised. This again simply creates order, The main reason laws exist.

The law doesn't precede the ethical value, the ethical value precedes the law. The law can be made to whatever is desired by those who govern, and is only influenced by ethics as far as order is seen to be gained. Thus the law doesnt have to follow ethical values, on the contrary as is so unkindly portrayed by Nazi Germany which made it legal to experiment on victims of the holocaust. Right of body was completely ignored, but the society still supported right of body, consequently making a great example of why laws are only influenced by morals but do not have to follow them.

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