Of course if you force the assumption that gun = $30kUS/AU, then it strengthens the argument a bit.

But first, not only do I think it's not too wise to assume Australia will be the same as the US in this regard, but I also think this is kinda beside the point here. Either way, set this aside for the moment.

Do US police have to give up their guns too? Cuz they kill on average over 3 people a day, many of those people completely unarmed.

How about the drug cartels the US anti drug war policy has created -- will they give up their guns?

1. I'm not an idiot. Whose wife do I have to sleep with to prove it? I CAN prove it -- where are the test for idiocy? Or again do you propose to outlaw all guns for everyone? Just for non-government citizens? Just for idiots? And if just for idiots, then how do you test for that?

I sincerely pray for the world where people below a certain threshold of some knowledge, wisdom, and natural ability shouldn't even be allowed to operate heavy vehicles, guns, institutions, etc. The issue is the idiots don't agree with me lolcuz they want to use guns and drive cars and run government and they outnumber me by far. It might be safe to say that we live in the idiots world.

1. Do you think, in regards to projectile weapons, the world would be ideal if they were outlawed all across the world? How would we enforce this, ideally? Idddeally, would the enforcers have projectile weapons or would they fight criminals who want to use guns with their hands and batons?

2. The government doesn't seem to be too good at outlawing anything, at least not in the United States. It seems if people want to do it, they will. Do you think the government is better at waging material wars against peoples property or ideological campaigns against peoples ways of thought or mental or emotional states?

Ie, it may sound kinda childish and simplistic, but instead of waging a war on guns (if we are to assume we are going to be successful, else why bother?) why not try waging a war on poverty? How about a war on "idiocy"? We utilize propaganda and education and force to straighten people out. We are already presuming a right over some portions of peoples lives in that we're saying " we're going to prohibit the existence of this tool because we never want you to excercize that power." So then it seems if we can be so presumptuous, we should start early and smash kids minds with propaganda and get them before they may even want to have guns... What do you think about this?