Hey guys, check out this interview of a guy in the UK that has preorder information for NMS!

All I've done is list facts to the best of my abilities.

Right, this is where you're failing at debate. Let's delve in shall we...

It doesn't make any sense. Sony already have the infrastructure for buying the game, why would they spend thousands of dollars shipping out codes to stores around the world when people can buy and download it from their online store in a matter of seconds? If they did decide to do it, it's a terrible decision with no benefit to them or the consumer.

What part of any of that is fact. It is in fact, without exception, opinion, and misinformed at that.

At the end of the day, they're businesses. Money talks.

Yes, and objectively what you’re saying does not make good business sense in any universe. Digital PLUS footfall WILL CATEGORICALLY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN JUST DIGITAL. As i've already said, and you chose not to answer - if the return on digital is so good why has a single PS4 game had a physical release? Because in store, even if it's just a download code, brings mass exposure. You chose to ignore my point about the fact that i bought a PS4 because Trials had a store presence, first hand evidence that store exposure makes money. You seem to be also wilfully ignoring the concept of NMS selling a single console, ever. Why the hell would Sony back a game and then not use it promote their console at retail? Or you do genuinely believe no one buys in stores anymore?

Because it's a lot of effort, money, and time for reaching a relatively small amount of people.

This is not a fact. Again, not even plausible IMO, and it's not a lot of anything for the return it will bring. Why do you think people turn up to midnight launches for games they can download the second the clock hits midnight without even getting off the sofa?

On top of that, Sean's said nothing when prompted about physical releases. He doesn't seem to be the kind of person who'd leave something like that out.

Correct, but then selling download codes in a shop isn't a physical release is it? Physical refers to the media delivery, not the actual existence/act of something in a place. Sean is also completely fallible, probably has a million things on his mind, and could misspeak. He's a dev, not PR, and considering his pure love for this game, probably not something he wanted to spend time talking about, because it's as dull as fuck.

On top of that, we don't even know how much it's going to cost, so any pre-order price is liable to be completely different from the actual retail price (Good luck getting your money back if it's less than what you paid!).

a) Who's priced anything? b) Download cards (not that we actually have any evidence they have any anyway) like any other product can be price adjusted in the blink of an eye. the price is not etched into the card. c) have you ever preordered a game? You don't pay the full amount, just a small fee, and if you do and the price is lowered at launch you get a refund of the difference or charged the new amount.

On top of that, why would this person risk their job for this? They supposedly give a lot of details about themselves in the video, so either their employer doesn't care (Not likely), they're going to lose their job (Possible, if true), or this is a load of rubbish (Most likely).

Sorry but who said anyone is 'risking their job' here? This isn't Wikileaks. This isn't big news. We've learnt next to nothing from it other than it actually exists and something is printed out in advance, which we already knew or could have guessed.

And then, finally, on top of all of that, we have the fact that this is the only source for this. No other outlets with employees leaking it, no journalists picking it up, no actual verification about who this source is, nothing.

Again, this isn't some sort of whistleblower scenario. This isn't a 'leak'. Gotta lol at journalists picking it up - it's NOT NEWSWORTHY, it's completely run of the mill and unremarkable. If you're not way hyped for the game it's straight up tedious.

So, you can believe what some random people on the internet say (With the knowledge that said people are treating the NMS community as a cash cow) or you can be healthily skeptical when someone presents you with information from anything less than a first-party source.

'Believe'. Funny word that. I don't recall saying i believed anything, you seem to have projected that on to me. I said it was plausible, because it is, and time will prove me right because i think the suggestion that Sony would fund a Game and then not have a presence for it in literally the ONE place both gamers and non gamers would unanimously expect to find it is straight up fucking stupid. I don't understand your Cash Cow comment in the slightest. First party sources only? Are you under some impression i'm banking on that video being right, or that i just see it as the 1000th meaningless speculation thread when all i'm waiting for is HG to tweet the launch date?

I'm naturally skeptical, I'm about science, not faith.

At best, this is suspicious. At worst, it's deliberate misinformation. The flair - not set by me - explains it all; At best - accurate

Keeping real information separate from speculation and misinformation is what I've done from day one, it's got nothing to do with my new moderator status. But it's got to be a conspiracy or something, right?

All opinion, again.

'Misinformation' is an interesting choice of words. And conspiracy - sorry, WHAT? I said you're shooting down a mundane, standard procedure down as if i were trying to sell you a 911 conspiracy. How on earth did you manage to take that as me suggesting it was an actual conspiracy?! I think conspiracy theories by and large are complete bullshit peddled by sociopaths with no outside view, empathy, or ability to see past their own point of view through rational discourse.

The problem here is you're trying to FORCE skeptism onto someone who's already skeptical, but believes something you're having a hard time with simply because he's seen it done thousands of times, because it makes the most business sense, and used to work in a Game store.

At the end of the day, what's it matter you to if i chose to believe that anyway?

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