[Hoffman] Jahlil Okafor in Philly outlasted D'Angelo Russell in LA. Didn't see that coming a few months ago.

Box score stats are what mean nothing on their own

I disagree. Not to mention you've provided as evidence for your claim the ultimate box score stat aka wins and loses. FG % is a pretty good box score stat to look at

Is it? Why? How is this considered "context" without any explanation?

Yes it is. When you have a team with the talent to win a max of 12-13 games, what is the point of trying to maximize wins? There is no incentive to win those extra 5 games to win 15 instead of 10. It is common sense to focus on development and evaluation of talent instead of focusing on winning 5 more meaningless games.

Based on absolutely nothing besides a completely empty 17 and 7.

What makes it empty? You are again just dismissing things that don't jive with your opinion. You are also ignroing his >50% shooting with your "absolutely nothing" remark. You are only saying it is empty because the team was horrible, which is not remotely Oaks fault. They were horrible with or without him. Marginally differences don't matter when you are historically bad for the reasons I stated earlier (they weren't trying to maximize wins)

And an even worse offensive player.

This is an absolute joke. He is among the 10 worst defensive players in the NBA. I question your basketball knowledge if you actually think he is worse offensively than defensively.

Not marginally, MUCH better.

No evidence for this. They win marginally more meaningless games without him than with him.

No, our team objectively scored much better with an "unskilled guy" in the game instead of Okafor. What's so hard to understand about that?

What does this even mean? Did they score more total points? More point per game? More efficiently? Shoot better percentages?

Whats hard to understand is that you are speaking vaguely and have difficulty accepting that your opinion is not gospel.

The players were trying to win, and the team before them won 8 more games.

So what? They put out a bunch of non-NBA players with unproven rookies. I don't care how hard the players were trying, the sixers as an organization were trying to lose. If you deny this you are delusional.

Or maybe in the 15-20 range, who knows.

No, they literally only won 10 games. There is zero reason to think they would have been able to win twice as many as they actually did.

No, the Warriors improved their average margin of victory over last season's, which you can't say about the Sixers with Okafor in the game.

So what, you literally just moved the goal posts. Margin was not mentioned until now. You only cited wins and loses and by your own metric, the Warriors are worse with KD. Just more cherry picking smh

You provided absolutely no meaningful context, and should probably try looking at 17 and 7 with some context.

Sixers weren't trying to win, so it pointless to cite wins and losses to cut a player down. It's a very simple point, not sure what you are confused about.

This is stupid, I don't even care about 95% of what we are arguing about here. Okafor is a bad player and horrible defensively and outdated offensively.

All I wanted to point out is that you are trying to hard to make him look worse than he is and the proof is your comments on his free throw shooting. Any stats I cite to support this you just dismiss as "not meaning anything" and you respond with cherry picked stats that have almost nothing to do with my point that you are trying to make him look worse than he is. Plus you've responded like 3 times now and curved the whole false notion that he cant shoot free throws every time.

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