Homosexuality Vs Discrimination. Which has caused more harm to humans? Which is more immoral?

According to what or who? Are you now making up the rules of what is good or evil, with whatever you don't like being the "evil"?

According to the Constitution and the fact we live in a secular society. Under it making religious laws into laws applying to all is wrong. Plus I said wrong, not good or evil.

None of those things in themselves are crimes.

Well since it is trivial to show that they can harm people and have even killed maybe they should be.

There is a theocracy that exists at a spiritual level as God as the head of it, through Jesus our Lord. If we go against what we know God desired for us, then of course that theocracy goes away by our breaking that spiritual connection with the divine.

And people are fine to believe that in their churches, but not to impose it on others.

That means, for example, not going along with the gay agenda that pretends like what they are doing is perfectly OK and that everyone should be doing it.

And 150 years ago it meant not going with abolition because God allowed slavery. Guess what those people were wrong and you are too. And serious, wtf are you talking about that the gay agenda means that everyone should be doing it? Doing what? Everyone should be doing gay? Really?

Sort of anachronistic in the conversation that is supposed to be about current issues.

Yeah, when the people against the current issue are using the exact same reasons and justifications the people in that past did, and we can now look to the past and see how miserably they were wrong.

OK, can you point out where the belief is in Christianity that it is a sin to be a certain race?

You are getting dense now. Since i was talking about the racists of the past...they used the bible and their belief in Christianity to say the the races were different. And some even believed, the Mormons even into the 1970s, that if a person's skin was black it was a curse. So they believed they were better. Plus i never said it was a sin to be a certain race...get some reading comprehension. I said there is no difference in hating someone because of their race or because they are gay. I never mentioned the word sin at all.

Who is talking about hate? And claiming people are born gay is unsupportable. Homosexuality is behavior set, not an anatomical trait.

Um sign saying thank god for dead soldiers, calling for gay people to be stoned etc..that is HATE. And the anti-gay side has plenty of it.

Unsupportable?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/22/are-you-born-gay-or-is-it-a-choice-scientists-might-have-found-the-answer/

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/03/06/americans-are-still-divided-on-why-people-are-gay/

While it has not reached scientific consensus yet, unsupportable is simply not true. it is far more supported than most religious claims.

You are just making it up that there is a side that is being shared.

No, you yourself said...

So what that means is that we need to not promote that which is evil because that is what we know through the spirit that speaks to us. That means, for example, not going along with the gay agenda that pretends like what they are doing is perfectly OK and that everyone should be doing it.

Sp, like them you stand against it and think it is evil...same side. Now maybe you are not as crazy bloodthirsty violent as they are, maybe you do not want to take it as far, but it is the same side of this issue.

You just invented a new definition of denomination, if you mean an individual church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT-affirming_Christian_denominations

There you go, get out of your bubble and look at the real world if you 8seriously* think there are no denominations that accept gay marriage. Talk about blinders.

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