Oral is degrading? A woman giving a BJ or a man eating a girl out is degrading? First I 've heard of it; most men and women don't mind being degraded in the least, then.

I mean, why is it less degrading relative to facials/swallowing?

I can't say plating is any more degrading than being a man who's been rejected 100 times, by female 3s and 4s.

Here's my spiel, which I've given a few times now. I've become more empathetic towards plates since I realized that women aren't that good at evaluating their physical SMV in a lot of circumstances. The evidence? Lots of 10-fashion models date losers in the fashion industry instead of looking for rich, charismatic men, because they're lonely and they grab what's available. And they stay together, often for years. HB10s and club promoters (sales person for night clubs) or model scouts.

If they can underestimate it for that much, why can't they overestimate too? I suspect a lot of plates think they are going after their equal SMV partner, and sleeping with him to accumulate relationship equity is just the way to do it. I thought hypergamy was intentional before ("Yeah, I'm a 5 sleeping with 7s, go me") but there are so many stories of heart-broken girls who thought they had a shot, this being one of the most memorable.

She started demanding to know why she wasn't good enough, and what this new girl had that she didn't have. She started yelling at me through tears about how I never cared for her or loved her, how I just used her for sex and threw her away when I was done, how I lead her on. She started calling herself an idiot for ever loving someone like me, and said this, which really cut me deep "you know the stupidest part of all of this, is I hate myself so fucking much because I still have feelings for you after all you've done to me." After swearing and accusing me of all sorts of things, like how I had used her for sex and lead her on, she turned on herself, and started calling herself an idiot, worthless, unloveable, all sorts of words. It was really sad to watch and I felt terrible for her, even though she was making this huge scene and embarassing the both of us in front of everyone.