How Many Bones Would You Break to Get Laid? “Incels” are going under the knife to reshape their faces, and their dating prospects.

i think you need to work on the distinction between attraction and wanting to be with a person. Everyone has different thresholds for what qualify as enough of an exchange of attraction, pleasure, admiration, or esteem, material provision, whatever-- for a sexual encounter. This includes the expectations or predictions for what could happen after a sexual encounter (2nd hookup, relationship, whatever). Women who have lots of sex or want/need a lot of sex probably vary considerably on who/what they want to have sex with in a "want to be with" kind of situation. From sluts to alphas to professional sex workers. Some Women that don't have a lot of sex probably have different thresholds too that may be similar to the over-emphasis that male incels place on sex. For instance, the inversion between a female virgins' ideation and selectivity could be inversely related with a male incels supposed desperation/permissive selectivity.

Regardless, sex for women is a totally different transaction/encounter than sex for men. Preference is guided by nurture and nature factors (read: cultural and biological) and let's not forget that reliable birth control is something that has only be artificially inserted in the last 100 years. Women still have to be the gatekeepers for sexual encounters because they are typically physically weaker than those they choose to be intimate with (trust/security) and again-- even with the minuscule risk of pregnancy they still have to carry the possibility that burden in their decision. If you want to go the MRA route with custody and alimony and child support bla bla bla... 9 months + pain of delivery + childcare is definitely worth weighing against 10 years of paternal/male support.

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