If no gods existed to give you morality, would you give up on trying to live morally?

Following that, it's objective.

you sure?

pretty sure humanism allows for abortion, including convenience abortion, which is over 90% or over 600k abortions/year . what about the well-being of the human lives that are being ended?

you haven't shown an objective moral definition of well-being itself. you've given your opinion which is presumably the secular humanist view - what standard makes that definition correct and another definition of well-being wrong?

if the foundational concepts are opinion, the resulting work is not an objective morality - it's a system built on opinion that can't be demonstrated to be more valid or correct than any other opinion

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