There is no point in arguing with a "Conservative" especially one who obviously spends so much time building and defending their beliefs online.

They argue without regard to logic or common sense.

They do this:

We don't like unions. Unions bad. How do we brianwash people into not liking unions? Hm... Okay, I got it...

Once they achieve their goal, which people like me try to prevent by constantly eroding people's confidence in and desire for unions, but once they do! Once they do!

Okay, so once they do, they keep their power and money and are a big ole pain in the butt! Who wants to deal with such a pain in the butt!

I mean, who cares how massively successful they are in ensuring worker rights?

Because once they are successful, oh my goodness what a pain to get rid of them - never been done. You can't get rid of them! That's why there are so many unions today!

So in conclusion, all unions are bad because no matter what, if they are successful they are bad. Because bad things will happen. Like power-keeping and money-making.

If success = bad things, then why even exist at all?!

All unions are bad. Be afraid of unions.

The point is, they feel their way into stupid beliefs and the reverse-engineer ways to make themselves "right." So they are absolutely pointless to argue with.