Every elitist is bashing everyone how to play the game though. Yes blah blah 202,87 makes the difference, but slacking because you have to do something so mindnumbingly boring will be a lot more than 202,87. Yes blah blah, content to get through, win-chance, double digit, wipe wipe, blah, it's still a game. If some elitist wants to minmax, be my guest, but their behaviour onto others is making normal players stress out over choosing which class. Now read that last sentence again "stressing over which class". How do you put up with behaviour like that if it puts stress on a player over which fictional role he/she's got to fulfill? People don't get invited if they made the wrong decision on which class/race they play. If you want to minmax, find a minmax community, don't ruin forums, random dungeons, trade chat, whatever. Have your 'lil circle jerk and continue with life.