I just don't care...

Humans eating animals isn't abuse, it's just how we survive.

Walking the down the aisles with our grocery court when picking off meat when there plant options available is not a mindset of survival. Other animals are actual carnivores with a lower degree of moral agency. They also lack grocery stores. It's not right to compare us to them.

I wish there were more humane ways to do it; I'm all for activism.

Lab grown meat is something you might want to look into. It will be a long while before it hits shelves, if it hits shelves. Regardless, the idea of "humane slaughter" is an inherent paradox. There's three factors: quality of life, method of killing, and act of killing. Unless you can find a way to harvest meat while not violating any of these factors, you can't call it humane.

One way that vegans love to counter that is "would you eat a dog?" and the answer is no, probably not, but mainly because it's seen as weird in our culture, the same way eating pigs or cows is seen as weird (or even wrong) in some Asian cultures.

But do you value the well-being of said dogs? If so, then you know that the only distinction between those dogs and the livestock is completely arbitrary, right? Comparing humans and animals too: there is no trait present in animals that if present in humans, would justify revoking said humans right to life.

I know your problem is primarily from an emotional perspective, but I wanted to get those mental gymnastics off the table.


Is there a way I can care, even enough to go vegan? Or am I just a bad person?

I'd give it some time. You're not a bad person. Keep thinking about, listen to maybe listen to some debates. I'm a vegan a year older than you and I don't care about the animals either. I guess I value consistency in my morality and like to consider myself intellectually honest. You could start with pescatarian / vegetarian?

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