Lets argue. Lee is High tier and not low tier at all

In other games that I play, the tier lists based off solely win rate/pick rate at high level tournaments are called 'metagame lists'.

They work, but they're not as reliable as more personal/'crafted' tier lists because without thousands of tournaments of data, a handful of peoples can mess them up more easily.

For example, Rangchu and Jeondding being pro Panda/Eddy players messes up metagame lists a lot because while it's agreed that Panda/Eddy are not very strong characters; those two specific players can do well with them and gives the characters higher win rates/pick rates than actual reality would indicate.

If you had 100 tournaments and Rangchu played Panda in 10 of those with a 60% in rate, you'll see Panda have a 10% pick rate and 60% win rate - even though Panda isn't actually that good (Rangchu is just comfortable with the play style and Rangchu is the good part of this data).

In the other games I play, you often end up with weird, niche entries show up in top tier because one player plays that specific thing. I remember a certain player literally single-handedly gave a specific entry a 60% win rate over the course of a year (and winning tournaments) and was the only person who could win with it despite hundreds/thousands of others trying to do the same.

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