Libertarian Redditor gets stuck in DC facing temporary homelessness while protesting big government. Another user points out the irony.

You deleted your comment. Here is my response:

Perhaps my lineage involved people who never voluntary associated with the government in question.

They were given the opportunity to leave. As are you. So then you say, well why do they have to give up the land they claimed because others came? I then say, why not? When you make a private property claim you deny me access to something I would have access to in the State of Nature. It is therefore an act of aggression, and I can band together with others and state a counter-claim and am justified in using force to ensure our groups continued access.

Consent by proxy and age of consent are constructs of the state, so accepting them means accepting the state; it's begging the question.

Okay, so at what point have you done anything which has clarified your lack of consent. Regardless of what age? At age five did you attempt to flee or overthrow the government? I'm okay with your claim if you actually indicate you do not consent.

A contract that reads "This contract may be radically changed at any time without consent of all involved" is no contract at all; it's smoke and mirrors for involuntary trade; it's a logical fallacy whose sole purpose is to confuse people into thinking that tyranny is legitimate.

It is a contract if you agree to that term. And the Constitution is very clear on how it can be changed. Amendment, and Supreme Court interpretation.

Yes, we do. It's called taxation; it's called prohibition; it's called "the social contract", etc.

But you are free to leave the social contract and go live somewhere else. A slave was not.

The fact that slavery (in the traditional sense) not only existed but was indeed enshrined under your system is proof that your system is not a foundation for voluntary association.

No it is not. You're comparing a system from 150 years ago to a system today.

When I look at the roads, I think to myself: "Those aren't my property; I don't know who owns that property, but it's definitely not mine, and other people seem to agree that it's not mine."

You do realize nothing you own is "yours" really. You do not have a clear and unencumbered claim to, well anything. At the very least you're subject to an exit tax of 40%. And with real estate, there is no such thing as alloidial title or similar.

For the sake of argument, let's pretend that it's April 4, 1933. I walk down the street, enter a shop, haggle, and voluntarily trade a large amount of my paper dollars for a sizable bar of gold. This funny block of stuff is now mine; I say it's my property, the person who exchanged it for dollars says its my property, my neighbors say it's my property, and the organization that calls itself "government" says its my property. It's my property, because I can easily defend it as such.

Except that the government does not say its your property, and no one else in society says that either. Our society gives you access to it and limited rights of trade, use, and disposition under law.

However, the next day, President Roosevelt signs Executive Order 6102 "forbidding the Hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States". Now, I find that by May 2, 1933, I must exchange that block of gold for $20.67 per troy ounce; I must trade with the Federal Reserve, even if I don't want to, and if I refuse to trade, then I may be fined $10,000 and sentenced to prison for 10 years!

And what is the problem?

Then, less than a year later, the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 enshrines this policy into legislation, and decrees the price of gold to be $35 per troy ounce.

Correct.

I hope we do that again some day.

In light of this, your sense of "property rights" are completely hollow.

Well, within any social system, especially like the US, you really don't have any "property" truly. It is all subject to what the society allows you to keep and use. But you participate in this system voluntarily.

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