LOK does not deserve the hate.

Then, why Korra and Wan still has the glow despite not having any past lives. It is clearly a contradiction and a retcon.

It is all past and current avatars that the Avatar state works for. Korra and Wan are the current avatars.

Putting rules isn't done by telling you them. It is done by showing them if you are a good show. And ATLA was a good show. They literally shown us that bloodbending requires fullmoon and is a kind of waterbending. What proof do you need more?

No, they don't. They show us that Hama and Katara are not powerful enough to bloodbend without a full moon. They also show us Yakone and sons are so powerful that they can do it without a full moon. It's literally a plot device.

And how was it proven to be wrong in the canon that you don't need to move your limbs to waterbend?

Because we are shown bloodbenders that don't need to move their limbs. Again, it's literally a plot device.

Katara is a bloodbender it is not a speculation. If taking bending away is reverse version of healing and blocking the chi path is the reason it can take bending away, then Katara should be able to reverse the effects of it because she is a bloodbender, a healer and knows a lot about chi paths.

I said it's speculation that Katara should be able to reverse the effects of the bloodbending. And in fact, I was wrong about that, because it isn't speculation it's just canonically incorrect as of TLOK.

If you watch the Beginnings Part 1 you can Aang, Roku, Kyoshi and Roku talking about Wan and Raava. They are making the same conversation in turns.

Canonically, they find out about Wan and Raava at the same episode Korra does. Before that they didn't know.

Aang didn't bend water and fire without instroduction. He get instroduction from Katara first and Jeong Jeong. And he didn't even produce fire by himself until he saw the dragons and he spread the fire in a very wrong way and by that time he was having breathing lessons from Jeong Jeong.

The only instruction Aang got for waterbending was "watch thing Aang!", then Aang proceeded to waterbend significantly without Katara's aid. And for firebending, Aang did bend on his own without instruction when he burned Katara. Half the plot of the episode was Jeong Jeong refusing to teach Aang.

In LoK, sources of elements are Lion Turtles. In ATLA, source of waterbending is moon and for firebending it is the sun. When they are gone the bending is gone, as well. Also Wan was able to airbend and earthbend without sky bisons or badgermoles. So all for elements are contradicting.

You're wrong. In both ATLA and TLOK, the source of the power of the elements come from the lion turtles. We see the page in the library showing it, and the lion turtle in Book 3 of ATLA even tells Aang that the lion turtles gave humans the power of the elements when he is teaching Aang to energy bend. The only explanation that makes sense here is that the lion turtles gave humans the power of the elements, and they learned how to bend the power via the moles, moon, dragons, and sky bison. If you don't agree with that, then it isn't TLOK that contradicts ATLA, it's ATLA that contradicts itself.

As I stated there design choices and design patterns are an important way of story telling and they can be retconned as well. My point isn't "I like ATLA spirits more" (I do though). My point is that ATLA and LoK spirits are diffirent.

Yes, the spirits are different. That still isn't a contradiction or retconning - maybe you should look up the meaning of contradiction and retcon.

Writers decided bloodbending can take away bending and that's violates the rules of waterbending.

No, it doesn't violate any rules. It is the rules. We are never told that bloodbending can't take away bending, but we are told it can (in TLOK). You disagreeing with the canon doesn't make it a contradiction.

 

Look up the definition of contradiction and retcon, then come back to me with specific and definitive proof of either in TLOK. You haven't done that yet.

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