I know the answer I'm just trying to make a point sweetheart. What I'm trying to get you to acknowledge is the fallacy. You want to wait till then so there's no friction because you have the "say so" permission from your dad at that point, but even now you're telling me that you don't trust your dad and the things that he's doing.

My main stature of this point is that, it doesn't matter what your Dad or Mom thinks of you moving out because once you move, it won't matter anymore anyway. You are an adult and they have no dictation of your life. You see what I mean? You can either wait for them to tell you something that it already is (okay to move out), or you can just do it anyway because you don't need their permission to be an adult. What are they going to do, say no? Dang, suck for them because that doesn't matter. That would be like a policeman from China coming over here and telling me something I am doing is illegal to them. I would just look at them and laugh because they have no power here.

That's the whole point of being an adult; not living by others standards. Especially when there's absolutely nothing to hold over your head.

Now if you were to tell me that you don't feel ready to move now and need a few years to gather some money and collect yourself- that can make a lot more sense to me. If you are willing to put up with the bullshit until you feel like you have a sturdy foot on the ground, I won't give you any shit over it. Understandable.

If it's something as simple as you are afraid you can't get all the stuff out of your house, then maybe you value your belongings more than your freedom and nothing I can say will fix that. I highly doubt that is it, I know you like your material possessions but I think higher of you than that. What are they going to do, ground you from taking your own stuff? You're moving out, they literally have no power over you anymore. If they put their hands on you then you call the police.

Remember how you told me your parents can't look through your phone anymore because you pay for it yourself. How good that feels?

If you have to leave a few things behind because you physically cannot get out of the house with them, just buy your own stuff as you get established. Walk out with whats most important.

When I moved out of the house, i was broke- but finally liberated. I didn't have a fork to eat with or a microwave to cook ramen. It came in time and now, I have so much crap, it's silly. I never look back at the things my mom held as hostage so I wouldn't leave her clutches. My freedom is priceless.