A mother told me [36M] her son attempted suicide because of my son's [17M] bullying. This isn't the first time, I'm at my wits end. Please help.

Too late. It's already done. You were contacted many years ago about the issues, but you handed out low stakes consequences.

He's almost out of High School, and he doesn't need to listen to you anymore.

If you're 'rich' enough to give this kid a PS4, I bet you're already planning to pay for his college because he's a 'gifted' athelete.

First of all if he's really gifted, then he would have gotten a full ride scholarship. Secondly, what a waste of money.

Kids raising kids. Did you raise your son like he's your best friend? Why would he want to listen to you? You're barely enough to be his dad in the first place, especially if it was as a best friend.

Apologizing profusely to the other parent?

Why does it take another child attempting suicide for you to understand that you REEEEEAAALLLY need to do something about your son? Why can't you understand that you've been doing something really wrong for years?

Sorry to hammer you on the head, but you're a terrible parent. Maybe it's because you had him so young? Where is the rest of your family on this? Where's your support?

If I had a kid, it would be because I wanted him and wanted the world to be a better place because of him.

I don't know what I would do in your situation. I do know that I would rather (figuratively) take a shovel to my son's head, and live with the remorse, than have him make another innocent child so miserable that they kill themselves.

If I were you, I would take responsibility for his actions. I would take the resources that you would have wasted on your son and funneled it to the kid that attempted suicide.

That kid that attempted suicide needs councelling, needs an escape, and needs hope.

"Son, I know you don't have to listen to me anymore soon, and you haven't for awhile. I made a mistake. I made your life too easy, and you took the freedom, and time and made another person's life miserable.

You're a gifted athelete, and this is a terrible lesson. You're being taught that results can come with no work.

Once you're 18, you're out of the house, and you don't have to listen to me anymore. Cause any more bullying, and you're out immediately.

I won't pay for your college. I have to pay for this kid's counseling, and I'm going to pay for his scholarship. That kid needs hope, and I have to pay for it because you took it away."

Of course you won't say these things, because you seem to think that sorry solves everything. It worked for your son, because he's learning it from you. You told the mom sorry, AND NOTHING CHANGES. It's so empty, so hollow.

Part of me feels like you should feel blessed that you don't have a civil lawsuit leveled against you.

Regardless of what you do, this is your son's roadmap...

It's already imprinted.

He's going to graduate. And he goes to college, where he washes out, because college is filled with 'gifted' atheletes. Your son will be a little fish in a big pond. He'll barely have the academic skills to get a degree.

Your son sounds like the kid that gets WASTED every weekend. If he's not an alcoholic now he certainly will be, either in college or construction. Why are you paying for him to get drunk and high every weekend?!!!?!?!?

You can still love your kid, but seriously, just cut him loose. This kid is going to need an intervention and it doesn't happen untill he hits rock bottom.

Sorry to sound so callous, but ironic, but kids have tried to kill themselves for much worse than what your son would go through if you actually tried to discipline him. Your son will survive if he has to live on his own and make his own way in the world.

You seem to think that he'll be unable to, and that's why you'll never discipline him properly.

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