Moved from office to cube --- feels like demotion. Ask for more pay?

Give someone a pay-cut and they will be negative

From my understanding, your salary was not cut therefore you did not receive a pay cut. That's not saying I don't empathize with your view, but benefits tend to have a monetary value that can be quantified (dental insurance has a set monthly cost) whereas a perk like an office would be harder to determine that cost.

Also, a benefit is considered a nonwage compensation whereas a perk is a "nice to have." Benefits tend to be fairly universal (dental insurance, medical insurance, RRSP etc.) and perks tend to be more company culture-specific (snacks, dog-friendly, transit pass reimbursement etc.)

I hate the idea that no company idea can be criticized

Criticise away, however, do it in a productive way. Seek to understand first and question second. You can't attack a decision without understanding why the decision was made, it doesn't make your criticisms seem as valuable.

LOL I don't need the condescension. Save it. I'm here for advice, not diatribes. But yeah I was looking for advice here. Advice that would benefit me. Not just "suck it up big boy". But might be the wrong sub for that.

It wasn't meant to be condescending. You are factoring your feelings into this as the primary argument. You feel as though you were demoted or received a pay cut. There's nothing wrong with having feelings or having your feelings hurt, but in business, that's not something that can be factored into every decision.

You have received the advice to talk to your manager or leave the company.

I also am doing confidential work. I do massive company reporting. I basically manage individual performance data for about 25% of the company

For the people who handle the other 75% of the data, do they have offices? If so, this may be one of the few ways to get back into an office. Tread carefully with the "X and Y get this so why don't I?" argument, even if carefully done it can backfire.

If someone was asking for advice to negotiate a higher salary --- you don't want some Capitalist coming in saying "well the business needs to remain profitable for shareholders so take your crumbs and be thankful!"

How do you expect a business to be profitable if they aren't balancing the finances? If the business can't support higher salaries then it can't. It's a very black and white way to look at it, but at the end of the day, it's true.

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