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We're calling different things sexism to a degree I think.

The sexism I'm talking about included a workplace in 2010 (so way too late for this) that was primarily women with a male owner that had a uniform and required women to wear dresses or skirts and possibly that from the financial reports you could tell the women higher up made much less than the men (and they were different roles so nothing illegal but the difference was larger than you'd expect for the type of role so maybe nothing wrong but it seemed a bit suss at least). Juniors had to make him tea too so it was pretty much he was old fashioned but some of the being old fashioned essentially was sexism.

It also includes phrases said by people we know - at least one of which was abusive and one who was at least a dick but possibly abusive as well (not with their partners - the people we know - anymore luckily - they shouldn't have to go through that) along the lines of "the mistake was giving her a car. You shouldn't give women freedom because then they'll play up", "women shouldn't have been given the right to vote", "she shouldn't have made him angry" (scarily that one was a woman from their family), and quite a lot more (and worse) that I cannot think of right now or don't want to say.

The sexism towards men I saw irl was from working in childcare and was horrible stuff female staff said to each other behind the male staffs back. The women on the internet I've seen doing this are just vicious to the point I figure they either mustn't have any close males in their life or if they do they don't care about them to say those things and that goes the same for the men that bitch about women on the internet too.

This stuff is horrible, especially the two men mentioned, but these are still a small sample of people. There's many more people who aren't like that.

That's what I'm calling sexism.

The thing is what you originally said was "However you measure it, I think it is clear that the average female attitude in our society is a level of subservience to men, and the average male attitude is that it ought to be that way." This isn't the same as " I think you end up seeing an average tendency toward women being more subservient/support roles than men".

One is about the average men's and women's attitudes towards this ans the other is what roles play out. How women and men are portrayed in the media doesn't represent real life attitudes too closely either. It does to an extent - if 99% of women are housewives that will influence the media - bitEven though there are idiots who think that way, I can guarantee you the average male doesn't think I should be subservient.

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